That other than in 1965 homophobia is not acceptable any longer in 2009, I would say. Also showing Ianto more comfortable with his sexual identity than in the scene with his sister.
Can't speak for RTD, obviously, but I think it might have gone something like this—Clem smelling Gwen's pregnancy was a fixed plot-point, and then they decided to reuse the idea with Ianto, mostly for the "Oi, it's not 1965 anymore," line, and there's no other way Clem would have known. I don't think it goes a lot deeper than that. And I don't think Gwen and Rhys are tacitly approving anything, either; they're maybe a bit embarrassed and don't know what to say, considering Clem's mental state.
To be perfectly honest, I don't want to go over the discussion about how stupid it was again. If you're really interested, I've written something about the narrative structure of CoE here (http://solitary-summer.livejournal.com/438214.html). Having been on the run (and in Jack's case, blown up and buried in concrete), they had no resources, no plan, no knowledge about the situation except what the got from Lois's lenses, and time was running out fast. Moreover, they'd been watching the footage with all those people standing around the glass cage without any protection whatsoever. Even Jack never saw the 456 before, and all they'd done in 1965 was offer and deliver a cure for a virus that had already mutated naturally. Maybe it simply didn't occur to them. Shit happens and hindsight is 20/20
And team Torchwood has always been a bit of a mess and at least in S1 half of the time was creating the problems they then had to solve, which actually people have been pointing out long before CoE...
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Date: 2010-01-13 11:10 pm (UTC)That other than in 1965 homophobia is not acceptable any longer in 2009, I would say. Also showing Ianto more comfortable with his sexual identity than in the scene with his sister.
Can't speak for RTD, obviously, but I think it might have gone something like this—Clem smelling Gwen's pregnancy was a fixed plot-point, and then they decided to reuse the idea with Ianto, mostly for the "Oi, it's not 1965 anymore," line, and there's no other way Clem would have known. I don't think it goes a lot deeper than that. And I don't think Gwen and Rhys are tacitly approving anything, either; they're maybe a bit embarrassed and don't know what to say, considering Clem's mental state.
To be perfectly honest, I don't want to go over the discussion about how stupid it was again. If you're really interested, I've written something about the narrative structure of CoE here (http://solitary-summer.livejournal.com/438214.html). Having been on the run (and in Jack's case, blown up and buried in concrete), they had no resources, no plan, no knowledge about the situation except what the got from Lois's lenses, and time was running out fast. Moreover, they'd been watching the footage with all those people standing around the glass cage without any protection whatsoever. Even Jack never saw the 456 before, and all they'd done in 1965 was offer and deliver a cure for a virus that had already mutated naturally. Maybe it simply didn't occur to them. Shit happens and hindsight is 20/20
And team Torchwood has always been a bit of a mess and at least in S1 half of the time was creating the problems they then had to solve, which actually people have been pointing out long before CoE...