Hmm. I concede on the second point, because that's true, but I try to remember that this is an American show, and a Fox show to boot, so it was never like I expected it to go to the man kissing, or even the girl kissing. I think the best we can hope for are hints and positive messages, and that blows but still. I can't think of any other American (or otherwise) scifi show at the moment that wouldn't have made a horrible mess of that scene, instead of it being slightly problematic.
The first point is harder for me to see. Echo has a bunch of personalities in her head at the same time, with the serial killer personality trying to take over, caught in a situation where she couldn't think clearly enough to see another way to end it. And it's not like the women all jump to kill her. There's a discussion, that most likely wouldn't even happen if these weren't women that had been imprisoned and tortured for who knows how long. I guess my point is, no one decides that Echo should die in order to kill the serial killer - the Dollhouse obviously wants their active back in one piece and the women are driven to violence by an impossible situation. It's a bad judgement call by Echo, and I can't fault her for that seeing as her brain is pretty much fried.
And while I don't see any misogyny there, where I do see it is in how little we see of the male dolls' missions. It's true that they focus more on Echo, but the only male doll we ever really saw working was Victor. But well, there's time for that if they don't cancel the show and let it develop properly.
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Date: 2009-10-11 03:28 pm (UTC)The first point is harder for me to see. Echo has a bunch of personalities in her head at the same time, with the serial killer personality trying to take over, caught in a situation where she couldn't think clearly enough to see another way to end it. And it's not like the women all jump to kill her. There's a discussion, that most likely wouldn't even happen if these weren't women that had been imprisoned and tortured for who knows how long. I guess my point is, no one decides that Echo should die in order to kill the serial killer - the Dollhouse obviously wants their active back in one piece and the women are driven to violence by an impossible situation. It's a bad judgement call by Echo, and I can't fault her for that seeing as her brain is pretty much fried.
And while I don't see any misogyny there, where I do see it is in how little we see of the male dolls' missions. It's true that they focus more on Echo, but the only male doll we ever really saw working was Victor. But well, there's time for that if they don't cancel the show and let it develop properly.