and even then, there are no consequences for that which we see, which gives the impression that it caused no problems between them.
Maybe it didn't cause any, because Jack knew perfectly well he'd been acting like an idiot and should have told Gwen in the first place.
Ianto is very much his own character in Fragments, and while he didn't have a lot of screen time there, also in Exit Wounds. In the end Ianto simply wasn't a major character until CoE, and besides his work for Torchwood, which clearly was very important to him, a major part of his function was being Jack's love interest and walking Jack through his relationship angst.
'so you're like Captain Jack off Doctor Who, you'll sleep with anyone, anytime, anywhere??' Err, no.
I'm really sorry that this is happening to you, but that's more the hype surrounding the show than the show itself. Jack had all kinds of intimacy and commitment issues, but he wasn't sleeping around while he was with Ianto. Flirting, yes, kissing a couple of people, but not sleeping around. He still loved and grieved over Estelle after all these years, and he was married once.
I do think Ianto did effectively come out as bisexual, he just doesn't use the word. Being in love with Jack is clearly a big enough emotional muddle for him; maybe he hasn't really thought about whether he'll want other men in the future. Maybe Ianto is one of the people for whom it's really all about the people he loves. It happens.
But I cannot be happy with that death. It was unheroic, cheap, exploitative, and just felt like a decision RTD made far too easily - he's confessed to not killing off the kid in the first draft, but Ianto's death was apparently always on the cards.
No one expects you to be happy about Ianto's death, I certainly don't, although I don't think it was cheap, and most definitely not unheroic. But why would you assume the decision was made too easily? And in terms of TV conventions killing children is simply more problematic than killing adult characters.
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Date: 2010-01-14 12:10 am (UTC)Maybe it didn't cause any, because Jack knew perfectly well he'd been acting like an idiot and should have told Gwen in the first place.
Ianto is very much his own character in Fragments, and while he didn't have a lot of screen time there, also in Exit Wounds. In the end Ianto simply wasn't a major character until CoE, and besides his work for Torchwood, which clearly was very important to him, a major part of his function was being Jack's love interest and walking Jack through his relationship angst.
'so you're like Captain Jack off Doctor Who, you'll sleep with anyone, anytime, anywhere??' Err, no.
I'm really sorry that this is happening to you, but that's more the hype surrounding the show than the show itself. Jack had all kinds of intimacy and commitment issues, but he wasn't sleeping around while he was with Ianto. Flirting, yes, kissing a couple of people, but not sleeping around. He still loved and grieved over Estelle after all these years, and he was married once.
I do think Ianto did effectively come out as bisexual, he just doesn't use the word. Being in love with Jack is clearly a big enough emotional muddle for him; maybe he hasn't really thought about whether he'll want other men in the future. Maybe Ianto is one of the people for whom it's really all about the people he loves. It happens.
But I cannot be happy with that death. It was unheroic, cheap, exploitative, and just felt like a decision RTD made far too easily - he's confessed to not killing off the kid in the first draft, but Ianto's death was apparently always on the cards.
No one expects you to be happy about Ianto's death, I certainly don't, although I don't think it was cheap, and most definitely not unheroic. But why would you assume the decision was made too easily? And in terms of TV conventions killing children is simply more problematic than killing adult characters.