I wrote a comment on another post, which ended up following one of yours, so I thought I ought to come on here and say it face to face, kind of thing. I have tried to use S1 and S2 to understand the characterisation of CoE, but I can't see it. I have tried, but I can't find the connections you seem able to see. I honestly think RTD took the characters names and then wrote an independent story. A good story in it's own right, but not Torchwood for me.
I think with Steven's death, the fact that Jack ignores him, doesn't look at him, doesn't try to comfort him and doesn't hold him, is the worst part, but as he'd done all that in ep 4, they couldn't have a repeat of it in ep 5. Do you and RTD believe that Jack needed Ianto's death or Ianto's death-scene to make Jack do what he did? The two deaths could have been handled so much better for the story, but sadly I'm on the side that thinks they were also written to manipulate the fans. He can't have it both ways.
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Date: 2009-08-22 09:23 am (UTC)I think with Steven's death, the fact that Jack ignores him, doesn't look at him, doesn't try to comfort him and doesn't hold him, is the worst part, but as he'd done all that in ep 4, they couldn't have a repeat of it in ep 5. Do you and RTD believe that Jack needed Ianto's death or Ianto's death-scene to make Jack do what he did? The two deaths could have been handled so much better for the story, but sadly I'm on the side that thinks they were also written to manipulate the fans. He can't have it both ways.