# The human-rights-what-human-rights? torture happy Sleeper. Now after several rewatchings I do recognise there's a quite fascinating parallel between Beth and Jack that comes out especially in the scene in the cells after they found out who/what she really is, as well as some interesting themes about humanity and what it means to be human when you aren't any longer, something that applies to both Beth and Jack. I also do recognise they did have reason to be be suspicious that something was wrong with her. However, none of that dminishes my extreme discomfort with how Jack treats Beth in this episode and how no one raised more than a token protest when he decided to have her tortured. Watching that scene still makes me sick. I'm sorry, but when things like and Guantanamo and the Abu Ghraib scandal are happening in the real world you can't write something like that without even the least canon acknowledgement that it might be a tad problematic. And while we're at it, whoever wrote Reset, I'm looking at you, too.

A WORLD OF WORD.

Have you ever read Jane Mayer's New Yorker article
Whatever It Takes? It's about the real-world consequences of portraying torture as an effective means of obtaining information, and portraying heroism as the willingness to do "whatever to takes."

(I've referenced it in three posts:
Torture in Buffyverse
and
Torchwood, and Owen Harper
and
The angst does not justify the means.)

They recycle the 'I forgive you' line for the third finale in a row after End of Days and Last of the Time Lords and no one noticed or cared?

Yes. It also irritates me, since both Jack and Ten are so morally ambiguous, that they're the ones forgiving other people - I'd rather see other people forgiving them...