You're right, the pdf seems to have been a bit of a turning point.
You can't know that, but I generally do have the tendency to see every possible side of every problem, which 99.5 percent of the time results in me never posting about anything that isn't either personal or fanish, because there's OTOH and OTOH and on the third, fourth and fifth hand, until I've argued myself out of my own opinions, so I do realise you have a point about generalising. I never meant to summarily condemn the whole of TW fandom.
OTOH (he!), judging from what I personally saw after CoE, I still believe that at least on some level this was happening and is a problem worth addressing. The interviews I linked... I vaguely (since she wasn't on my frinedslist at the time and I only read it via friendsfriends) remember a post by rm talking about appropriation and that RTD had a point, but otherwise almost every reaction focused entirely on how outrageously offensive and hurtful these comments were, and dismissed them as hurt vanity, without even remotely acknowledging that there might be an issue worth talking about.
It's not so much the interaction between fans and TPTB that made me comment, it's more the way fans sometimes treat other fans - and a lot of that is just passed down from TPTB (which is why I pointed out that interview).
Be fair, though. Again, this is only talking about my corner of fandom and my experience, but with CoE it hardly were those who disliked it who were silenced. There was so much hurt and anger everywhere, even talking about CoE in one's own journal was like navigating a minefield. I felt guilty even saying I liked it. I liked how Jack/Ianto was written in CoE, and all I was reading was how wrong, cheap, OOC and all kinds of dirty their relationship and Ianto's death was. It took me six months to feel certain enough about myself to post this, and even so I was very aware that most likely at least in a couple of cases it would mean severing ties with people I liked and who'd been on my friendslist for years. I do regret this, but writing this I also realised that it's a huge relief being at least able to talk about this now.
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You can't know that, but I generally do have the tendency to see every possible side of every problem, which 99.5 percent of the time results in me never posting about anything that isn't either personal or fanish, because there's OTOH and OTOH and on the third, fourth and fifth hand, until I've argued myself out of my own opinions, so I do realise you have a point about generalising. I never meant to summarily condemn the whole of TW fandom.
OTOH (he!), judging from what I personally saw after CoE, I still believe that at least on some level this was happening and is a problem worth addressing. The interviews I linked... I vaguely (since she wasn't on my frinedslist at the time and I only read it via friendsfriends) remember a post by
It's not so much the interaction between fans and TPTB that made me comment, it's more the way fans sometimes treat other fans - and a lot of that is just passed down from TPTB (which is why I pointed out that interview).
Be fair, though. Again, this is only talking about my corner of fandom and my experience, but with CoE it hardly were those who disliked it who were silenced. There was so much hurt and anger everywhere, even talking about CoE in one's own journal was like navigating a minefield. I felt guilty even saying I liked it. I liked how Jack/Ianto was written in CoE, and all I was reading was how wrong, cheap, OOC and all kinds of dirty their relationship and Ianto's death was. It took me six months to feel certain enough about myself to post this, and even so I was very aware that most likely at least in a couple of cases it would mean severing ties with people I liked and who'd been on my friendslist for years. I do regret this, but writing this I also realised that it's a huge relief being at least able to talk about this now.