"...in that case, shouldn't the rest of TW fandom speak up..." Others in fandom have been speaking out against that corner - at least since that bizarre (and often offensive) 400 page internet document surfaced, and, less vocally, before. (I'm afraid I'm not terribly active in fandom these days, I'm sure I've missed plenty.) And I'm not saying you should stop, but your generalization is unfair.
~ Yes, I'm sure the real reasons for a lot of it (meaning: the more often than not hidden nature of the Jack/Ianto relationship) would be an unpleasant surprise, based on that tidbit ~
It's not so much the interaction between fans and TPTB that made me comment, it's more the way fans sometimes treat other fans - and a lot of that is just passed down from TPTB (which is why I pointed out that interview). For every fan that has a problem with CoE, there is likely to be a unique bent to what s/he didn't like about it and a unique reason for that dislike. Painting 'everyone on the left' with the same brush just obscures real problems (whatever they happen to be). It's a tool to silence people.
That said... I think it's weird how some people in fandom DO attempt to 'become friends' with TPTB and/or The Talent, or, at the other extreme, think that a problem with The Art must equate a problem with The Artist (and take it as if a once-friend had betrayed them).
But, I love the meta that goes on in fandom. And I would usually lurk, but little things like that (tiny bit at the end of your meta) will bring me out.
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Others in fandom have been speaking out against that corner - at least since that bizarre (and often offensive) 400 page internet document surfaced, and, less vocally, before. (I'm afraid I'm not terribly active in fandom these days, I'm sure I've missed plenty.) And I'm not saying you should stop, but your generalization is unfair.
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Yes, I'm sure the real reasons for a lot of it (meaning: the more often than not hidden nature of the Jack/Ianto relationship) would be an unpleasant surprise, based on that tidbit
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It's not so much the interaction between fans and TPTB that made me comment, it's more the way fans sometimes treat other fans - and a lot of that is just passed down from TPTB (which is why I pointed out that interview). For every fan that has a problem with CoE, there is likely to be a unique bent to what s/he didn't like about it and a unique reason for that dislike. Painting 'everyone on the left' with the same brush just obscures real problems (whatever they happen to be). It's a tool to silence people.
That said... I think it's weird how some people in fandom DO attempt to 'become friends' with TPTB and/or The Talent, or, at the other extreme, think that a problem with The Art must equate a problem with The Artist (and take it as if a once-friend had betrayed them).
But, I love the meta that goes on in fandom. And I would usually lurk, but little things like that (tiny bit at the end of your meta) will bring me out.